The first in our series of Gorgeous Lives interviews: Mary Killen talks to Marigold Johnson about her life in the corridors of power and the literary world and her marriage to the historian Paul Johnson.
Like many women of her generation, 81 year old Marigold, an Oxford graduate, was perfectly happy to channel her intelligence and competence into helping others in her family to achieve rather than stepping into the limelight herself.
In the week when she is shopping for a black hat to wear to the funeral of Baroness Thatcher Marigold shares with listeners her amusing memories of her life in publishing before she married, her work for Lord Longford on the anti-pornography campaigns of the l970s and those giants of art, literature and politics she has met over the course of her 56 year old marriage to Paul.
We hear about her own work towards the Northern Irish peace process which earned her an MBE, and how she trained as a psychotherapist at sixty.